I really enjoy my Xbox 360, as I’m sure many others do too
It pains me though when I read about their 360 units breaking, especially the dreaded Three Rings of Death....which sounds like something out of a J.R.R Tolkien book
Three Rings to rule them all, Three Rings to find them,
Three Rings to bring them all and in the darkness wreck my damn Xbox 360 turning it into a bloody massive paperweight
But I digress..
Today we received a disturbing report via SiteHound from a student in France who was studying (I believe) economics and was looking for a decent deal on an Xbox 360. After a week of contact via email and chat with the fadretail.com site, he believed they were trustworthy and also were offering the product at the right price. He proceeded to send them the 200 Euros, which equates to about half price, but then he suddenly stopped hearing from them and with no Xbox 360, no Euros, he’s completely out of pocket.
Now, upon closer inspection of this website, there are many bells that should be ringing.
Some of you may feel that these are reasons enough to avoid this kind of site entirely, but when the population of internet users don’t have the same education and instruction on such things, and especially considering this person was in contact with the website operators for over a week, some forgiveness for the mistake can be made. Even more so because it was an Xbox 360 involved, now you’ve really pushed my sympathy button.
Some people may suggest not to shop from overseas, but I can also understand shopping in other countries, I myself purchase many things from overseas...the New Zealand dollar is so high right now against the Yank, that’s just good economics.
OK, so at this point, we’ve got one dude, who’s been ripped off...and with a bit more digging around he probably could have avoided this.
So we looked into this further, and the website that was reported to us. The results were scary, not just the number of other sites out there, but also the diversity of the product they sell.
Here’s just a few other chinese sites that we believe have some kind of association with the same people who took poor Frenchy’s money. They are all very likely scams and will very likely rip you off.
And trust me when I say, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.aeoea.com
http://www.affair8.com
http://www.bapevogue.com
http://www.beijingpanjiayuan.com
http://www.bizshong.com
http://www.bjwholesalemarket.com
http://www.ceb18.com
http://www.chbtc.com
http://www.cheng318.com
http://www.chinaeagora.com
http://www.clothshox.com
http://www.dgonsale.com
http://www.digitalbbc.com
http://www.digitalcamerasc.com
http://www.digiwsm.com
http://www.dvivb.com
http://www.e-speedservice.com
http://www.e-trade168.com
http://www.ebaywt.com
http://www.elecbar.com
http://www.elpdt.com
http://www.eodat.com
http://www.eurdm.com
http://www.eurds.com
http://www.euretn.com
http://www.eurfm.com
http://www.fadretail.com
http://www.fadshoes.net
http://www.fairpdt.com
http://www.favoritedigi.com
http://www.folieshop.com
http://www.hotbuy5.com
http://www.hotnegocio.com
http://www.jlxin.com
http://www.jojobay.com
http://www.junyuanexport.com
http://www.lduot.com
http://www.milanfashion99.com
http://www.music-666.com
http://www.music-998.com
http://www.mwnst.com
http://www.myeagora.com
http://www.necktie2008.com
http://www.nihaogoods.com
http://www.one-good.com
http://www.onlineshop126.com
http://www.optionalmall.com
http://www.osdgm.com
http://www.ourebazaar.com
http://www.ourefashion.com
http://www.owsfd.com
http://www.powersellershop.com
http://www.powerzh.com
http://www.prevailbag.com
http://www.prevailshoes.com
http://www.rebly.com
http://www.ruceo.com
http://www.sabtw.com
http://www.scaway.com
http://www.season-five.com
http://www.sell-shoes007.com
http://www.shoes816.com
http://www.shoesba.com
http://www.shoesbag315.com
http://www.supermarket168.com
http://www.tnwss.com
http://www.topseverice.com
http://www.trade-china369.com
http://www.tradedigi.com
http://www.untiontrade.com
http://www.wesob.com
http://www.world-sell.com
http://www.worldtrade168.com
http://www.wsuto.com
http://www.wtosky.com
http://www.wxhbaby.com
http://www.xckj188.com
http://www.zdito.com
http://www.zhanghao16888.com
As of 25th March comments are now disabled, please see the updated post here
http://firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/the-bigger-list-of-chinese-scams
they are starting to distribute their spam on myspace.com
received one from digitalbbc.com
whois entry is bogus:
Registrant Contact:
wei
wei wei bfm_123@163.com
13261980615 fax: 0592-5861834
bejin
bejin bejin 100000
cn
Administrative Contact:
wei wei bfm_123@163.com
13261980615 fax: 0592-5861834
bejin
bejin bejin 100000
cn
Technical Contact:
wei wei bfm_123@163.com
13261980615 fax: 0592-5861834
bejin
bejin bejin 100000
cn
Billing Contact:
wei wei bfm_123@163.com
13261980615 fax: 0592-5861834
bejin
bejin bejin 100000
cn
DNS:
ns1.4everdns.com
ns2.4everdns.com
Created: 2007-05-23
Expires: 2008-05-23
thank's for your comment's, we'r really thankful for your info.
hopes anybody ells meet with thoes situations agayn.
bye and thank's agayn
Hello,
i have also problems with wtosky.com. I buyed there two mixers an a beamer. For that i payed the price of the goods, for the duty and for the shipping transfer and now .... i have nothing. What i can do to get my money back? Is it possible to indicate them?
Hi blackjackpg
I don't know what options are available to get the money back, the general feeling on these kinds of scams seems to be that once the money is gone there is nothing you can do. However I'm going to try asking some questions and see if I can get any answers.
Can you tell me what method you used to pay for the items ?
Thanks
Chris
Hi Chris,
Do you know of any reliable suppliers in China or Hong Kong where I acn buy mobile phones and Apple products from?
Thank you
To be fair I'm not interested in legitimate suppliers, your best bet though is over at www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk
here what you gonna do just try playing with them order may goods as you can using different email address , thats the only way you can bounce back to them, because they get very mad when I order a lot and giving them wrong visa number or western number
hi,i just bumped out of money.i sent over 245 pounds to a website by name www.digitalbbc.com. they have stopped replying my emails and dont even pickup the phone anymore. please stay away from them if you worked hard for your money.the BBC should be informed of these scam so they can warn people to stay away.i have learned the HARD way and i promise you, they will pay
Hi, I nearly loss $883 australian dollar today, luckily I browse and I saw your posting regarding chinese site and the site that I was dealing was written in your list. "http://www.osdgm.com". The guy that's answering my email was 'tuyguiuhoo' was really patient and keen to answer my question. I had to order from them, one is the mobile phone worth $47 and the other is 3x set of xbox worth 160euro each and when I told them that I had paid the 3x set of xbox through westernunion. They sent me invoice and details of the mobile that they had processed and ready to post. I was shock because I told them that the payment is for the xbox. I been waiting for their reply and until now they havent answer me. I able to refund my payment with westernunion but I lost the $30 fee..Its better than $800..thanks alot for your site..keep up the good work..
Hi there
This is the first good news I've seen so far, so I'm very glad you were able to stop this before losing all the money.
Thanks for posting
Chris
is there any trustworthy legite trade sites out there that u dont have to worry about getting ripped off from
Yes, there are many trustworthy sites. But do research on them first.
For example, one site I purchase from myself is www.play-asia.com who I find excellent, both in terms of price and delivery. Obviously they don't seem quite as cheap as the scam sites, but when you will actually receive the goods you order, I think that's a small price to pay :)
Something about the deal sounded too good to be true! Thanks for the heads up! I was in the process of placing an order for 2-42 inch LCD TV and a 17" Mac book pro from one of these sites. I would have lost so much money!
I was conned out of $400 AUD for a GPS navigator I never received. I feel like an idiot, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. I didn't do my research properly. They contacted me through ebay on 2 seperate occasions and liased with me for a week through the website www.scaway.com before I made payment. They gave me Bank of China details to deposit the money and even sent me an email saying they received payment and said they would send the item (to buy more time). Is there any internet fraud department that would be interested in these details? I know I wont get any money back but I hope I can save others making the same mistake?
Hi there
The first step would be your local police, however given the scale and number of victims, it would be awesome if the Australian Federal Police got involved. Check out http://www.ahtcc.gov.au/tech_crimes_types/fraud.htm for more information on this.
Cheers
Huh... My coworker bought a laptop from osdgm.com and got it. he brought it into work to show us. It's very nice. he only paid about half price of what he could get it in a store here. I'm not saying that these sites are not scams, but i do know that osdgm.com is not one of them.
funny - most of these sites look almost the same (including osdgm.com) and some have similar contact information. but osdgm also sells on ebay and when my coworker showed me, had a 100% rating.
yes, i was wary, because i had found this thread before he had got his laptop, and i told him about it. but he got it. i was also wary because the site had only existed for a few weeks at the time that he ordered it.
my coworker used western union to transfer the money, and the money wasn't taken out until the package was marked as delivered.
I'm now thinking of buying somethings off it now and reselling them on ebay myself.
also, osdgm.com updates every week or two and adds a few new products (and removes a few too). I'm going to wait until my coworker buys more from osdgm.com just to make sure they don't try anything (he is about to buy another laptop and a cell phone).
FFS......if only stupidity was painful.
Let's take a closer look at www.osdgm.com
A quick Google search on this website reveals some interesting posts.
This one here which (in Spanish) talks about a user being ripped off with a transaction involving a motorcycle.
And further discussion (still in Spanish) on it here
Then let's look at the date that www.osdgm.com was first registered.
http://whois.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=osdgm.com
28th June 2007
Quick check on their website and it says....2000....huh...what ?
Let's try their listed phone number from the website then. Another quick Google search.
Nothing to worry about there, they only share this phone number with
www.fadretail.com
www.fairpdt.com
www.prevailshoes.com
www.wesob.com
www.voguedm.com
www.gleedw.com
www.dvivb.com
But then all those sites have different email address and Skype contacts, and Hotmail addresses too.
Let's also mention that the phone number listed in the Who Is results above is fake. not a typo. Fake.
tel: 86 010 12345678
In that Google search there was also a mention of the phone number here
http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7630&page=6
But again, what would fraudwatchers.org know about fraud.
Well then what about the payment options
Western Union.
Money Gram.
Direct Bank Transfer.
So what if none of these payment methods give the buyer any fraud protection
So then let's go back to the what you've said.
One person received one item, so suddenly they are legitimate ? Bullshit.
We've never heard of eBay users gettings their accounts hacked either have we.
Of course too you can't forge eBay feedback, I mean, just because there is over 1200 websites, that doesn't mean this is organized and have many people involved.
And lastly, one guy gets his $500 laptop sent, so then friends and family place orders that will probably come to several thousand dollars.
Sure most people don't go to the lengths I have to check out a site, but it shows with a little investigation how much you can find out. If you are still convinced this site is legit then by all means, order up large.
Could you check out this company.
We can do COD for you??/DIV>
From: Justine (raokaihui@hotmail.com) r
You may not know this sender. Mark as safe | Mark as unsafe
Sent: Tues 8/07/07 3:32 PM
To: bfit2dance@hotmail.com
dear Terrald,
how are you !
I met you on the go4worldbusiness know you are looking for a supplier can send you shoes, i can do this for you ..
i am a company owner from china selling desinger handbags(LV,chanel,hermes,gucci,coach) ,shoes(jordan,gucci,airforce one,bape,locaste,prada ) ,clothing ,jeans(diesel,redmonkey),jackets,jerseys(nfl ,nba,mlb) ,hats (ed hardy ..NY,locaste),sunglasses,watches ,ipod nano mp4 and so on . welcome to visit my web site : http://www.huichuangtrading.com/
for our business starting , i will do full C.O.D for you , it means you should pay me when you received my items , so you do not worry about been scamed by some bad chinese sellers here .
and also i hope you are a serious business man whom can be trusted .
for more details please click to my web album link :
http://photo.163.com/photos/raokaihui/
http://photo.163.com/photos/rkh1983/
I wish to cooperate with you in a long term ..please contact us by my email :raokaihui @hotmail. com or huichuangtrading@yahoo.com
I am looking forward to hearing from you soon ..
Best regards
Justine
This is a scam artist, I have done business with this guy for about 2 years. He will send you stuff C.O.D. but it won't be more than $100-150. They do that to build your trust so you can send a lot of money and then they will disappear. So don't trust him or her. If they want to send you stuff C.O.D take it and pay for that but other than that don't deal with them.
yes , i have confirmed this company .i located in UK, justine is a good man ,i have done long term with him alreday , wish you can contact him too .
Do NOT trust this comment made directly above, it was made by a person located in China, not the UK like they say. (IP Address: 220.192.66.34)
They are only trying to deceive you. I approved this comment to highlight the importance of doing your research, and to not believe anything you read. Also it gives you another reason to not trust the website http://www.huichuangtrading.com
I have tried to reach Justine for about 1 month now. Here is the story, I sent this guy Justine $1000 USD, he took that money and I never heard from him again. He sent me an email on the 27th of September and told me he send me a nice order which mind you i paid for. I never heard from this guy again. I have tried all the email addresses that he has on his site and the phone numbers, he don't respond to anything. I have tried to get money back from this guy and he don't respond to anything. Don't send Justine any money first. He talks about how good of a supplier he is, he is a scam artist and he took my money and he will take yours too. Only do C.O.D with this supplier. He saw my reply and tried to convince you he is a good guy, don't buy it. Justine if you are reading this, here is your email address: http://www.huichuangtrading.com, raokaihui@hotmail.com- I have not recieved any mail from the email address since he sent me the last message telling me he sent my box, but I never received it and it has been a month now. JUSTINE RAO is your Instant Messenger name. You haven't been online since, it you are a good man like you tell everyone, then you should contact me about either my order or my money. I order products from you so MAN UP AND KEEP YOUR WORD YOU LIAR.
www.gleedw.com is a not legitimate, its a con, fraud, scandal, rip off, theft, pishtake, bo-shank. There are many other sites like this.
There is a simple rule.....
If it looks too good to be true..
...then, it is too good to be true.
If your looking for a bargain I'm selling London Bridge if anyones interested?
Goodday sir,
I was so intressted in www.gleedw.com but I can't understand why it's that cheap..
Is it really fake?
Kind regards
dear .
in oct 2007 i have contact the man name: di yang (shoo.pp@hotmail.com ) website : www.shoopp.com .i paid money 1400 usd buy digital camera products in 18 oct 2007 and they told me need 7days i get goods in my home but after 8 days i waited cargo them email to me transport cargo company return cargo to them because my country customs need pay 30% duty import and when they receive cargo from transport company them transport it to me immediately by other company . but in today i have not receive cargo ,i email asked them transport company name , tracking number but they not reply email to me know . pls help me check their company ,now i think me lost money .
this is information their company :
company name : beijing wanguo electronics
address : E-World 4A168 ZhongGuanCun HaiDian BeiJing
phone number : 0086 10 87070771
MNS : shoo.pp@hotmail.com
contact name : di yang
thanks! pls check them and tell me know
mr.khoa
Dear
mr.khoa
I purchase the computer from their company, the tracing number is EA911008614CN.Please check http:www.ems.com.cn/
I already received my notebook, I am extremely happy.
My name is Frode Jorgensen
address: Dokkgata 1
7014 Trondheim
Norway
TELL YOUR CO-WORKER NOT TO BUY A THING OF OSDGM - THEY ARE CON ARTISTS. I HAVE JUST PAID OVER $600 FOR A PLAYSTATION 3, AND NEVER RECEIVED A THING. HE WON'T GIVE ME A REFUND, HE SAYS IT'S STUCK IN THE CUSTOMHOUSE OVER THERE AND DEMANDS MORE MONEY!
osdgm.com placed a spam comment on someone's ebay listing. I decided to check out their site, and of course the low prices look incredible.
Western Union being a payment option was the first alarm bell.
I searched google for the term osdgm.com and found this page.
What I find scary is the fact that so many sites are exactly the same. Very suspicious. Only a little of the formatting is different.
I can only thank my lucky stars purely by accident I stumbled across this site earlier this month, me and my dad were going to get a tv each from www.digitalbbc.com, instead of typing the address into the address bar, I typed it into google and your site came up upon looking through it I see it was a scam and seized all communication with them...Thanks again hopefully many more see this site before wasting their hard earned cash.
That's good news, you've also learnt a good lesson on doing research first as you never know what may turn up.
Lost more than 800€ on wtosky.com, I was speaking with the "girl" (who knows) for more than a week, she provided papers and tracking numbers of received products because I was reticent, I also found strange things on google about them but still I tried, and now I'm pissed, like never before, and they will pay for that I'm going to destroy they're spaming intent one after another, I will do the most dirty things I can for as long as it take.
hi, i was just scammed for $554 by wgtmdy.com and of course they say my item is in customs and i need to pay another $200. i am obviously not going to waste more money but i want to complain as many places (in english), as possible, and scare the living s**t out of them. Where do I go online to file fraud complaints? Can I do it with the FBI? thanks, sorry to sound dramatic but like many others it takes our family alot of work to set aside and then throw away $554. Beth
Your local police should take the complaint, though typically they are dismissive. With some gentle persuasion you hopefully can get tehm to point you in the right direction.
With regards to the FBI, check out the Internet Crime Complaint Center here http://www.ic3.gov
Has anyone had experience with www.ele-export.com They seem to be along the same lines as the rest of the scams. hotmail.com email and western union payment options. This is crazy all these places trying to scam us out of our HARD earned money!
i came across these 2 and there is most likely lots more of them
http://www.ruceo.com
http://www.cieuo.com
Hi could you check out this website for me www.beijing-trade.com
I've paid them over 3000 euro and they keep sayng they will get a tracking number luckly i have suspended there paypal account as this is how i paid they aren't happy could you let me know asap thanks.
Donna
Nothing suggests to me this website is legitimate, in my opinion they will either scam you or send you counterfeit goods. Will add to the list.
Am very VERY glad that I stumbled accross this website. Was looking around on www.cieuo.com and prices seemed too good to be true. However I was a little skeptical on the fact that a IT store sold both DJ equiptment and Motorcycles!
Still... it didn't deter me as the low prices were getting the better of me. I went to register for a Western Union account and subconsciously thought, "let's do a google search on the URL and see if any bad feedback comes up about the site..."
Well, my concerns were definately answered when I came accross this blog. Thanks Chris and everyone else who as shon some light back into my head! Guess it's back to the good 'ol store shopping in person for me.
Cheers.
I always get ebay-messages for my goods i want to sell... they just send me their ads in the question. Spam-Idiots...
NICE BLOG! Everyone can post something! Thats great! There should be more blogs like this one.
Dear, just last week, i've been chatting with somebody that pretend to be a secretary working for a company in Beijing,
i've sent $453 to buy a notebooks. After that, the told me i've to pay a tariff before my goods flies out of china. I didn't pay. I've seen that the cheat me. here is the web site. www.elec-mall.com.
Beware.
Ok there is a serious issue here, I lost money paying wtosky.com but i used paypal!! They did absolutely nothing and I have emailed them maybe 30 times. They even made money from the deal. They are equally as criminal and this is the 3rd time i have lost with paypal. Please email me if this has happened to you, something needs to be done.
prestigehe@hotmail.co.uk
Sam
I have been cheated by www.bmrgn.com for £912. This guy or girl's email address is manitou55planes@188.com They sell televisions, cameras and other electrical applicances on the website. The phone number they listed doesn't work. When I see them on the MSN with questions such as no goods have been received etc. they don't reply at all. They sent me a bank account details in Beijing, China, under name JI XIAOJIE. I think I will call the police at their local area in China. I am not sure this will work but I will give it a try.
DO NOT TRADE WITH THIS WEBSITE.
i came across your site when googled eshop-48.com
is shopping on sites such as dhgate safe
No, I don't believe www.dhgate.com to be safe. It's setup to be a Chinese export wholesale marketplace, and as a result it's being targetted heavily by scammers.
Though DHgate have made some efforts to prevent the scammers, it's not enough to justify me saying that even is all OK.
Heres a good read from other users experiences
http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9449
Hi everybody, just make more money by trading smart on web>> go to www.DHgate.com. Man, mega bargains from millions of product categories directly from China! It has thousands of customers from close to 40 countries, choosing from over 10 million listings sourced from 100,000 certified sellers. And since these sellers all are from China, their prices are unbelievably low too. If you have any issue contact their helpful customer services or even buyer evangelist. Now a note of caution-Never take shortcuts on web! Yes thats right!...never break rules and bypass the official system. Remember to use only www.DHgate.com's escrow system as that protects your payment against bad supplies. And if the supplier is genuinely interested in doing trade long term (thats the hallmark of serious businesses) he will never tell you to break trade rules...judge sellers by their rule following abilities...and trust tried and well researched rules on web...like escrow to buy cheap yet safe! Go shop with confidence and make more profits too all at China trading marketplace www.dhgate.com
I bought an awsome LCD 40" from www.season-five.com I spent 470 euro
but they didn't ship it ....and there is more than this, they also asked me, after they received the payment, 198 euros for customs duty...I am going to show you ehat they wrote me after I found out how fraudulent they are:
Yes,we admit that there are many competitors in this electronics products industry,so our company do not care the discourse who said or who he/she is.We only need to show our company honest to customers and our credit impression in customers's heart and eyes.
STAY AWAY FROM WWW.SEASON-FIVE.COM
STAY AWAY FROM WWW.SEASON-FIVE.COM
STAY AWAY FROM WWW.SEASON-FIVE.COM
I have been buying sutff from them for 3 months and i just pay the duty in canada and i have recceved everything i have ordred
thanks alot for pointing out this website fradualent/ scams b/c i was going to buy stuff from them and now i know. thanks alot man for putting this up on the internet
I have recently been researching these sites as I'm trying to set up my internet business (legit) and have found some hints: sony never released playstation 3 in China all these consoles are either resold through USA or Canada or fakes I got caught out by www.superll8.com.
No legitimate wholesalers will contact you and If by chance they do they will not tell you price straight up. I now have a few rules I follow: If they will not give you their Business registration number, scam. If they do give it have it verified; If they only accept western union or T/T, scam. Its all about doing your homework. www.siming trading even produced a business registration certificate and when I had someone check it, turned out to be Fijian based raw chemical supply license. Do your own research and cover your asses
If i had the chance to meet the person behind dgonsale.com i think i would go to jail after casue of what i would do to him. im out over $1000 dollars and now i have to pay my friends back casue it was all a scam. if anyone knows how to get htis money back or whoelse i can talk to please let me know.
You know I think you'd prefer Chinese authorities catch these guys. Chinese law isn't very forgiving.
File a complaint with Police, and assuming I've got it right, and you're in Canada, then here is a list of authorities. I'm not certain which one is best.
http://www.ccmostwanted.com/report/report2.htm
hi i had an experience with cieuo .com dj equipment for very low prices went as far as depositing into western union transfer until the girl from western union advised me not to purchase online with this method i stopped str8 away i had only checked the first two pages on google this one is on the fifth page is there any way of getting this thread moved to top of first page so other people will not fall for this defo scam
Hi, Has anyone heard of www.jersey2008.com and www.mobile.forward9.com ? as i'm in the prosess of doing bussiness with them.($5000 of bulk buy electrical items). There both china and only accept western union or t/t.
This site has put me off trading with chinesse sites for a bit , untill i can get info.
Please reply if you know of these companys.(i found them on www.Alibaba.com)
Thanks Stevo
Jersey2008 sells counterfeit items (but will tell you so)
forward9.com looks to be the same.
Neither of which provide you with any proper protection, so I don't see why either are worthy of doing business with
Steveo, i have been using Alibaba for over a year for importing. The site is a well put together marketing tool for the aisian market. You can also find freight forwarders that will investigate any of these companies. Don not buy unless you have retained a firm to check them out. Pleasse study the Alibaba site. It is an excellent marketing tool!
Shelly
Hello,
I am also doing business with them, have paid trough western union for a few items, but till now not recieved, and i am getting my doubts about it, because it seems the companys have vanished from alibaba.com
Your post is of 17 sept. Have you heared anything since then?
kind regards.
Hello has anyone anything on goodsaaa>com or order-shoes>com
I was thinking about giving them a try but am weary.
Any help would be grand.
cheers.
Hi, I m so glad I found this site before loosing any money. I have been dealing with a so called compaany http://www.nyqbw.com who resemble all the web sites you have listed above. I was in the process of making a payment when i realised things were just to good to be true and did some research. I am sure that these people are the same as those described previously and hope they will make a valuble contribution to your list.
I was also looking at buying from a company http://www.max360.net but am guessing it is the same story. Does anyone know anything about these people.
Personally I think I will go back to find suppliers through http://www.alibaba.com, i find this web site very useful.
Thanks for your help
Great, I'll add these two sites to the list.
Be very wary of all traders on Alibaba, as these same scammers are known to frequent this website also
i was thinking about trying nikeshoemall.com. i was wondering if you could see if it is legit.
Hi
Can you please tell me if the below site is a scam.
http://www.shunfa-trade.com
Thanks
I do not have a homepage. I only lookin for help and answers.Do not wisk to be scam..
Has anyone try ording product from this site"www.goodsbay98.com".
I want to order but the prices are to cheap to be real. I have been emailing the customer service per ordering product. However, he replies with the name John....The company is in China and chinese ownership....
PS: here is the required payment plan:
All customers may use the following payment options:
Western Union:
-First Name: XiuYu
-Last Name: Yan
-City: BeiJing
-Country: China
-Post code :100021
We will need the following information from you after you have sent the payment:
-Money Transfer Control Number
-Senders Name and shipping information
-Item name
Bank Transfer:
If you wish to pay using this method, kindly request our bank details along with your order.
Bank of China Panjiayuan subbranch of bank Chao
Yang District , Beijing, China.
A/C First Name: XiuYu Last Name: Yan
A/C No. :4260115-0188-005692-4
SWIFT code : BKCH CN BJ 110
The paypal payment is not convenient to us.But if you insist on your mind to use paypal payment,please contact us.Thanks!
Bank name: BEIJING China BANK
Account: 4260115-0188-005692-4
First Name: XiuYu Last Name: Yan
SWIFT code : BKCH CN BJ 110
Thanks for any answer
Frogface
What about www.buynet4u.com? Are they a scam as well. Also, I would like to say that I have ordered 3 times from www.35hoe.com and I have gotten my order each time. But I will not buy from them anymore because they went up on their prices. LOL. But anyway please let me know about www.buynet4u.com. Thanks!
Be careful of this website http://www.caatainc.com/index.asp
They are scam!!my friend lost money with this company.
I just wanted to let everybody know about this...
I suggest you read http://firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/the-bigger-list-of-chinese-scams then http://firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/anatomy-of-a-chinese-scam
Then decide for yourself.
hi great site here`s one i`d dearly love to know was genuine but i suppose its a scam `www putuby.com ..ever heard of them hope you find the time to answer this thanks william
Hello I was going to order some things from www.buynet4u.com and would really like to know what this site is: either legit or a scam? Also I have been stressing to no end trying to find apple macbook pro wholesalers, would you happen to know any that are legit?
New SCAM posted in Gumtree: www.rgsdu.com and www. bestdealwithyou.com
I'm very stupid that I was trying to convince myself quietly that the low prices may be true, I knew that could be a scam and have I've seen simalar website to the above scam.
Thanks Chris.. please add above website to your bad list.
I've been to a website and it was hacked by "White Knight"
and he said " Stop ripping people off .... otherwise I will hunt you down "
I think he's a bit Legend/Hero to me.
Go "White Knight ... let's hunt more scam site !!!!!!!
To White Kight,
Can you hunt down www.rgsdu.com and www.bestdealwithyou.com as well
Love
I guess i should ask the following question before My last comments:
Hi Chris
Is www.rgsdu.com and www.bestdealwithyou.com scams ?
Thanks for your time
Hi Chris
I went ahead and discontinued my auctions i had up for sale from this so call wholeseller that goes by the name of www.mall6699.The sad thing is, I had bids on them and I terribly feel sorry and shame on behalf of the bidders.I don't want them to think that I as tryna scam them,it is totally untrue. They seem ligit,but after viewing your blog. and lots of comments from others,it made me think twice and wanted to get a better out look on these people.Please,would you
kindly check them out for a ligit person as yourself and others like?? I appreciate you and others such as.Thanks!!
Dawn
Hi. I am guessing these are obvious scams, but I really like the products they offer.
www.packshoes.com I see they have the western union payment thing and prom Putian with no exact address. I know this sounds very shady, do you know if it is for sure. It also seems very similar to buycheapsneakers.com because the products are VERY similar. I also would like to know about Tradesneakers.com.
If these are all scams, do you know a legitimate site/business that offers hoodies of these sorts. Thank You. sam
www.tradesneakers.com seems like a parked website, and not being used for anything specific ?
The other two sites I would not trust at all.
As far as legitimate sites, if you want proper branded product, go to the appropriate brands website.
okay, i have a website that has given me whatever i want it is legit, its www.iofferbest.com itsnot too bad i guess.. but are there any people that have had good experience with aceishop.com? because i sent out money and a few days later i found this site now im kinda of scared and skepitical, has any1 here had good feedback with any of these suppliers? i need a new tv i just dont want to spend the thousands the retailers ask for.. chris let me know..
The second site is already in the list. How did you pay for the goods, if by money order or bank transfer, then you put yourself at risk to save a few bucks.
There's a reason retailers cost more, its because they build their business around providing a higher quality service, quality goods, and proper customer protections. You want to avoid these costs but still get the above ?
iofferbest.com looks like counterfeit junk to me, adding to the list.
Please do not on any account deal with cnnike2008.com, i ordered 10 ipods from them which turned out to be pure shit,,, and then they try to tell me that they told me that they were copies, (liars) so i got no chance of getting my money back,, so beware and do not deal with them.
I also ordered some iPods from cnnike2008.com, not sure as to weather or not I have been scammed yet, as they say they are bought directly from foxconn in Tawain. Phone numbers did not check out, gave me 3 different phony numbers but I thought what they heck and went ahead any way. I Will keep you updated as to what happens with this. Any how please please someone give me a legit website that I can look at to import and resell here in US. please!
nealy gt conned by wgtmdy.com for £200 luckily you guys where here to help, they are kind so dont be fooled
Hi there,
same story as a lot of others.chinese website,western union,goods stuck at customs,money gone.no tv.
website is www.idgcweb.com.
do not have any dealings with them.
no body seems to want to know to help.
cant understand if they have bank details how they cant be tracked down?
any feds out there with the answers?
I am an ebay seller and i purchased 3 orders for customers through them totalling 1000.00 and sent the money via wester union. I searched up and down the web before i dealt with the business and did not see anything on them for fraud. So i took that as them being a legitimate business. So i sent the money and a day later they sent me 3 tracking numbers for the orders. But it has been over 2 weeks now and the tracking numbers still do not show up on them.THe customers are frustrated and so am I.I have contacted them everyday and they said that i had to pay and extra 300 for custom fees and i did and they said that they sent it off. So now i am emailing them and they do not respond so i feel like i have lost out on the customers money and mine. What can i do to get their money back and mine and where can i report this at. Also what happens if i cant afford to give the customers back their money. I am a military wife and mother of 3 infants and i cant afford to go to jail or pay these people back. WHAT SHOULD I DO?? PLEASE HELP ME????THANK YOU! I also have all of their emails saved to keep as evidence. So what should i do? Thanks!
Greed is bad, there is no such thing as buying current model product below wholesale. This is not different that the Nigerian scams, blind greed will ruin your life.
While I dont know your actual situation, I guess you already got paid via Paypal. Next step is your buyers will file complaints, your Paypal account will go into overdraft, and you will get email from Paypal requesting to add founds or else...
Go to local Police and file a complaint. That's probably about all you can do, but given your process was reckless at best, you likely are going to have to be liable for these losses.
To be honest with you , theres really nothing you can do, except never buy " authentic" items from china. They only have replicas.
Also the only time you have to pay customs fees is when your country charges you custom fees, and the reason why they do that is because, for example: you buy a iphone from china for $250usd , but they put the value on the customs form for $20usd , if customs randomly take your package and inspect it and see that you have an iphone and the value isnt correct they will tax you extra money and you would have to pay your local post office in order to receive the item.
Scam sites:
www.aaiiv.com
www.ectopher.com
www.elandcn.com
www.gsdytrade.com
I am trying to find a reputable company to buy clothing from China for resale but all the blogs I read online scare me to death... I finally found dhgate.com and they SEEM to have a trust system and he escrow and Paypal etc... does anyone know of truly reputable companies over there or a REAL place that checks them out? I have been talking to "Anita" via hotmail from a company called viisoon.com I do believe... and she wants me to of course use western union... it only $144 but still... it's money ... and also I made a small order for $340 through paypal with another company called josluxury.com I just paid today... it said she was verified and had 90 trust points... this has been the best seller I have found yet... and there are a few big ones on dhgate that take visa and have good feedbacks...which I can do a charge back right? I am so freakin frustrated... any help to point me in the right direction would be awesome... I am going to skip out on the western union payment for now... and hopefully I can find some sdvice about the dhgate stuff... THaNK YoU!!! Gail
I am also talking to viisoon but I don't know if I can trust them. Did you get your package from josluxury.com?
Best Regards, David
Have you read the guide I posted ?
Never pay by Western Union.
The sites you list all seem to be selling fake stuff anyway, you just can't buy these kinds of brands from China, so you're potentially running a risk by importing counterfeit goods.
DHGate is taking postive steps, just never deviate from their advice. Don't let scammers talk you into paying by other means etc..
Great site, I'm new to this wholesale kinda deal but I've been looking around sites for ages now without finding a turstworthy one. I pretty much come with two rules, if you don't have a real email (not a free one) and if they dont accept my cc then I'll pass.. Also, the business itself should have a proper domain name registered atleast 6 months back in time.
Anyways. Great site, keep up the good work for us serious traders out there!
Thanks Robert. I think too you may benefit from getting involved with www.thewholesaleforums.co.uk as well. Plenty of other wholesalers hang round there and I am sure can offer some really useful advice.
Chris,
This is a tough one I think, http://www.jmexport.com/
Seems to be american but with a free mail. Number given out and well.. MOQ seems resonable.. What do you think?
I think they are probably affiliated with a Chinese company selling counterfeit goods.
From their FAQ
2) Is there paperwork provided for your products?
No, as they are surplus stock lots, we are not able to provide any form of documentation.
15) What happens if my goods get stuck in customs?
We are aware from experience that couriers play a significant role in this trade as we are dependent on them not only for smooth deliveries but for customs clearances. We have identified the ones who are able to clear customs quickly, hassle free. Though their shipping charges may be significantly higher, it guarantees the delivery. None of our shipments have been detained by customs. However, should any be confiscated, we will not be liable for any loss.
So ask yourself, with no proper documentation, and with no real guarantee the goods will make it through customs. Seems very suspicious to me.
Then if we look at the WhoIs we see this
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Which means they've taken steps to prevent folks like us from seing the tru owner of the website, and we must ask ourselves why would they do that ?
hello,
today i found your website.
i think it´s to late for me.
because i have follow problem, i get a email via my eBay account.
than i take a look on this site, and i see good items for a good price.
than i found an hotmail adress, that adress i put in my MSN account.
on the other side is a pretty lady. she is a worker from this company. i ask her for some items. she gives me always an answer.
than i ask her, what is my warrenty to get the goods, if i order it?
she means, TRUST is the importend thing in buisness.
ok ... i think it will be OK !!!
i have already a china deal .. and this one works perfect!
so i make a order in this webshop.
3 mobiles, 1 xbox360 EU vers. with 4 games.
goods have a price 520,- EUR incl. shipping to AUSTRIA.
ok .. its a good price .. not too cheep.
i tell her, i will pay over western union, because i need the phones this friday. she means, it can be critical, but they make it, that i get the parc. until friday.
i go to my western union and pay it. send her the INFO she need to get the money. she reported me, that she gets the money and they will send the goods today.
after 1-2 hours, i ask for a trak&trace no. ...
after 5 min. she gives me follow .. EA825708525CN ... it´s a EMS sending.
OK .. i´m very happy.
one day later, she send me an email .. i have to pay 268,- EUR TARIFF for the custom house in CHINA ?!?!?!?!
i tell her, that can´t be, because i dont have to pay TARIFF in china, because i pay TARIFF in my country!!! after the parc. arievs our custom house!
NO no way .. i have to pay it . because the parcel dont will come to austria, because its "BLOCKED" in there custom house. and they will give it free, after they recieved the money!!!
so now i dont know what to do .. if i send the money, than i´m not sure, if i get the goods.
because the tracking no., i can´t track on http://www.ems.com.cn/english-main.jsp ...
i think, for normal i have to track the no.
the minimum what i have to read on the tracking page, that the parcel is in china custom house .. so i think .. OR NOT ???
the shop is in your LIST .. but what now .. ?!?!
she give me phone no. of the china custom house, the company.
is this the phone no. from china custom house?
+86010/65194114 and if it is ... can somebody check for me, does the parcel exist?
i try the phone no. but the person dont understand me .. i try in english and in german .. but nothing.
PLEASE HELP ME .. just somebody tell me, if the parcel exist in the custom house or not. !!!
and the suspect is, all the shops in your list, are from BEIJING ..
my first order was in SHANGHAI and the secound tooo .. and there was no problem!
THX allot ..
Greetings from AUSTRIA
DadoLegenda
Yes, I think they are trying to scam you. Check out this post here
http://firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/so-ya-wanna-deal-with-a-website-in-china
It gives you some places in China to contact who might be able to help
Hey Guys, I would like to know if fyltrade.com, lloooo.com, tradekeygolden.com, or williamtrade2.com are scammers or real business people?
Thank you so much.
I wouldn't trust any of these sites. The first, is already in the list, the second seems offline, and the others are selling branded goods that you cannot buy from China like this. If you want the real thing that is.
Hello,
I was planning to buy a laptop from China, worth around 350 euros from this website: www.idgcweb.com.
Ive made the payment through Western Union, but now the company wants me to pay an additional 120 euros, as they say the product is held at customs and they won't release it until I pay.
The company uses EMS as a courier. Im not sure if I have to pay thew company more money (as its a third of the value of the product). I dont know if all of this is suspicious or not.
The company send me copies of the EMS shipping form and Ive tried to track the shipping nr, but nothing shows up.
Does anyone have similiar experiences!
Your help would really be appreciated!
Thank you
This is very common, and is done to get more money from you. I suggest you check out this post and treat the situation as a scam.
This is information I received from a friend in China...regarding www.shoopp.com
Hello,XXX,
I can't find out any information in Chinese,
and the pictures in the website is actually another shopping center.
http://www.bjemall.cn/main.php
I don't think you could believe this e-store.
i already bought many times at supplyingshoes.com and excelleapparel.com
it's china fake but seller are honests and send your goods.
Had the same experiance, bought some products on www.idgcweb.com and now they are asking for more money for tax. These guys are brilliant con men in my books.
Bastards
Check out http://firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/so-ya-wanna-deal-with-a-website-in-china
Gives you some options to file complaints to authorites in China
Hi, this is Jouseiky Garcia, I was just about to buy 10 iphones from www.eeevv.com for $1990.00 today! I'm very thanksfull because I found this website before I pay them.
Next time William send me a e-mail, I will foward this site to him. I think that will be enough to not to haer from him ever again.
payee to: chen wang bo
phone: 86-0594-2754111 (same number you have above)
This is crazy! I will be more carefull before I buy anything from the internet.
hello is there anybody who had made buisness with hailian.ecvv.com ? please check it for me chris. i want to buy iphones unlocked and they seem to be oki but something tells me i should check them first...please help me and find out if they are trustworthy .
i have found a website called www.eshop-48.com i placed an order and just waiting to send a payment to them but i fort i w2ould do reaasearch first and found this website so i am just asking if anyone can give me information on www.eshop-48.com or research it for me
Thanks
Hi!
Thank you very much for this great website! And thanks God that he safe my money!
I was looking through the internet deal to buy apple iphones. I find website WWW.FYLTRADE.COM. Today I had place order for big amount and pay via Western Union (this is just one payment option). VIVI this is the name of lady??? who wrote a lot of nice e-mails with super great offer that I accept.
Finally, in a two hours after payment has been made I find your website because some bad feeling push me to find this company detailed info. If you will go to www.alibaba.com (verify a company) on page 2 you can find comments from buyers who wrote that the company FYLTRADE.COM is fraud and scamm. The very same second I was on the phone with Western Union an
Same thing happened to me on wtosky.com, do not trust any of these sites. Please post if this happened to you, I even used paypal and they are doing nothing.